The keyboard has even been reviewed as a MIDI instrument and has been given good ratings. Articles such as this one: Hands-on: Rock Band 3′s Keytar, a Surprisingly Serious $80 MIDI Keyboard go into more specific details about the specs of the keyboard itself (a good read and a good place to find some needed information if you dig), but all these articles lack something.. something really important that the average music noob like me doesn't know or understand. I guess I falsely got the impression that the MIDI option for the keyboard was a great thing for beginners, boy was I wrong. That's where this blog comes in.
All I wanted was to get my Rock Band 3 keyboard to work as a simple piano. I'm taking lyrical singing lessons and am a pure beginner. I need to practice scales and things like that. My thinking was that with the right cable-age (yeah cable-AGE) I could have a simple piano using my Rock Band 3 keyboard ("two birds with one stone" was my thought process when purchasing it).
I know NOTHING about MIDI.. hell I can't even read music nor play a musical instrument (unless you count Mary Had a Little Lamb on the recorder) so all this is brand new to me. Everything I learned about getting my RB3 keyboard set up is from reading forum posts (and sadly many questions by people there have gone unanswered, questions I myself had), blog articles and things like that.
You see, the last 24 hours has been a bit of a struggle for me. From running around (on foot I might add) between music stores and doing google searches with said music store employees to spending up to 3 am at night trying to find software, getting this keyboard set up has been a bit of a pain to say the least. I'm hoping that I can help prevent the frustrations and lack of sleep for someone else by writing this and gathering that information in one location.
Getting Started:
Required Materials:
- Rock Band 3 keyboard (with working batteries) [duh, but you never know]
- MIDI to USB cable (~ €30) OR
- MIDI cable (~ €3) and USB MIDI interface device (~ €60 +)
- Software (one thing so many articles fail to mention or go into detail on)
Things You Need to Know:
- Most MIDI to USB cables have 2 male ends that end in one USB end
Most cables have MIDI out and MIDI in. In this case you only really need the MIDI out. If you have a cable that has both just ignore the MIDI in part of the cable. It will still work.
- USB MIDI interface device
I feel it important and noteworthy that unless you can not find a USB to midi cable, or unless you want to do very professional more complicated things with your keyboard and other MIDI instruments, there is no need to go this route. It is only more expensive for someone who wants to just simply "play" without the fancier recording possibilities.
If you're going this route please note that you need to install the drivers BEFORE you plug anything in. Even if it does not say you have to, restart your computer after you have installed the drivers (not restarting caused me some trouble).
- To use/hear your keyboard you will need software
If you're lucky and your USB MIDI interface device (assuming you went that route) comes with software, install it. You've just saved yourself a HUGE headache. The one I purchased did not come with ANY software sadly, not even a trial.
Those are the key points to know to help you get started with what you will need.
Plugging It In
The actual "easy" part. You can probably figure this out yourself but just in case...
For MIDI to USB Cable:
Keyboard MIDI out port => MIDI "In" part of the cable => USB slot => Computer
For USB MIDI interface device:
Keyboard MIDI out port => MIDI cable plugged into the "IN" port on your device (channel 1, or "1" if you have more than 1 channel) => USB slot => Computer
Software
For those with a Mac you're in luck. Now I don't have a Mac myself so I can't go into specific detail, but I have been told by someone who has one that once you plug your device in your mac will recognize it as a MIDI instrument and you can then use GarageBand (part of the iLife suite) to play it.
For those of you who are less "trendy", you're pretty much up Sh-t creek without a paddle. I spent countless hours looking for a free, legitimate and safe software without a whole lot of luck. I installed at least 20 different programs and tested most of them to no avail.
I actually own a copy of Guitar Pro 6 (got it for the husband) which I thought may work but sadly it does not. You can write music using your keyboard onto a score (that works) but you will hear no sound and it will not play back. Kind of useless for what I wanted.
So let me present you with your paddle: ZynAddSubFx. It's free, it is easy and it is relatively easy to figure out. The only hard part I found about the software was actually getting a hold of a binary (.exe) file as it is offered as a tarball (.tar) you have to compile yourself.. too much work and above my level of knowledge.
The binary executable file can be found here, Setup_ZynAddSubFX-2.1.1, albeit in an older version (look for and download the .exe file).
Using Your Keyboard
Use of your keyboard is going to vary depending on your software but overall hardware functionality is the same. It would behoove you to note the following use for the buttons (thank you to the article written by Peter Kirn referenced at the beginning of this blog).
Keyboard: 25 keys transmit normally, with velocity. (No aftertouch. I’m glad we get velocity.)The weird thing about it that bugged me was that there was no visual indication for what octave I was in. The LEDs on my keyboard would light up when I'd change octave, but in a flash pattern and then return back to the first light... making me wonder (according to the information quoted above) if my keyboard is defective or if this is just an oddity.
In drum mode, the keyboard transmits General MIDI drum parts, which is, of course, handy for playing drum patches. (It’s also handy for confusing the hell out of you if you didn’t know that’s what it did.)
Touch controller: 1-axis modulation. Hold down the “Overdrive” button, and while that button is held, it sends pitch bend – which makes pitch bend nearly unusable. (Too bad they didn’t just make the Overdrive button a straight toggle.) Works well enough for Modulation, though.
Octave: Octave up and down shift uses the X and B keys (on Xbox, or the left and right action keys), just as on the guitar – and just as on the guitar, you get four up, four down. Octave feedback is available on the LEDs.
Program change: Top and bottom action keys increment or decrement, respectively, program change. (Y and A on Xbox.)
D-pad buttons: As on the guitar, these toggle functions, though for the keyboard all four are mapped instead of three. Up turns on and off drum mapping, right changes the pedal to foot controller, down changes pedal to channel volume, and left changes the pedal to expression.
Transport controls: The Back, Guide, and Start buttons on the Xbox gamepad correspond to Stop, Continue, and Start MIDI messages, respectively – so if you’re tracking your next Rock Band Network song in Reaper, you can control your takes right from the keyboard.
Pedals: There’s one pedal port on the side. More on how to use this soon; I haven’t yet tried it. It’s a 3.5mm jack, but I have to find out the voltage. Stomp should work fine with a standard Rock Band drum pedal, and in the default mode, you can use that for a damper pedal. For expression, you need something that sends analog voltage.
Panic: Press the Back, Guide, and Start buttons simultaneously to switch all notes off. (Curiously, this appears not to be the same as on the guitar, but I can only test the keyboard to know for sure.)
If you go too far down or too far up you essentially end up "off the board" to where half of your keyboard will not work (because you have run out of octaves.)
Familiarize your ear with C4 -C5 (knowing just C4 and C5 is good enough) to find your position back at middle C vicinity (middle C is C-4) and give you a reference of where you are on the keyboard.
C4 would be the last key to left of the keyboard and C5 the furthest on the right to put it all simply.
Using ZynAddSubFX
In case you decided to use the ZynAddSubFx software as I did, here's some help getting that sorted.
ZynAddSubFX looks a bit daunting, even in its "Simple Beginner Mode" interface.
Personally I haven't played too much with the software, I only wanted a piano so I'm satisfied to use it simply.
The only thing you really need to touch in order to do the same is to select the proper MIDI channel (look for "Midi Channel Receive") and choose the sound of your instrument.
In general the MIDI channel should be "1".
To choose the sound of the instrument click on "Click here to load an instrument", push the down arrow on the blank drop box, select your sound type and the choose the exact sound. I'm generally use "Synth Piano" and "Soft Piano 1".
Enjoy Your Keyboard
After getting everything plugged in, installed, restarted etc you should be set to use your keyboard as an instrument. Simply turn it on (you'll know your good when the red LEDs are on), fire up your software and go!
Hopefully this noob guide removed a large part of the headache that comes with trying to get this set up when you know nothing about MIDI or keyboards.
Once you've figure it out, it's a decent little setup. My own personal irk is this though, seeing as how almost all the software out there is in general so expensive and professional (lots of youtube videos of people using the keyboard for MIDI and mentioning their professional software) why in the hell would someone who already has all this software (and probably equipment) want to use the silly RB3 keyboard when they probably have better?
I think MadCatz or someone could have taken advantage of this to market it as a beginner device (or at least that is how I felt it was marketed) by selling a very low and reasonable cost simple software to use with the keyboard. I know it'd probably be a pain for them, but there was so much potential to be had there.
Accompanying Video
(currently uploading/processing on Youtube)
Excellent post ... I was pulling out my hair trying to figure out the keytar.
ReplyDeletethanks for this post, it was very useful for a noob like me
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for this post. :D My grandma bought this on sale ($20!! O_O), not knowing what it was. You've made it a lot easier to set up. x3
ReplyDeletei am trying what your saying but its not working what am i doing wrong
ReplyDeleteif it helps i am using some type of band hero usb midi interface
and i am using a program called music creator. i'm plugging up the keyboard using the band hero midi to usb plug and it shows up on the device midi out but i cant seem to turn on my keyboard without turning on my xbox is this suppose to happen , further more i am unable to get sound or make it work can you help me ?
Hi Anex,
ReplyDeleteExcelent post, thank you for putting this together. I am exactly where you were back then (no knowledge around music, bought the keypad to learn the instrument, buying the cables) so this is really usefull for me.
Thank you
Thanks so much for putting this together! I've been wanting to learn to play a synth to branch out my musical tastes, and a friend of mine bought Rock Band 3, so I thought it would be perfect to get acquainted with the keys. I've played with the software for a bit and it sounds fantastic for a free program. I really dig a lot of the instrument sounds. Again, I really appreciate the work you've done to make this learning experience easier for me to get started.
ReplyDeleteI'm so glad I found this article. Now I can do some music-y stuff with my keyboard. Thanks for writing this!
ReplyDeleteWow, nice find on ZynAddSub. I've been looking for a simple free synth program like that. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if you've stumbled upon this gem yet, but native instruments has a free version of their Kontakt 5 software. (http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/kontakt-5/)
ReplyDeleteif you just want to mess around with MIDI, it's a great piece of software. lots of great sounding instruments and none of the lag that I noticed in ZynAddSub. Only drawback is you have to register before downloading :P
If you want to further improve your response rate, install the bassmidi midi driver. (http://www.mudlord.info/bassmididrv/bassmididrv.exe)
ReplyDeleteyou will need a soundfont (.sf2) to use with it, just download one somewhere. Bassmidi is much faster than the standard DirectX MIDI interpreter that Windows 7 uses.
Hello. I buy an adaptator for my RB keyboard but doesn't work I think it wasn't the right product. So I read your article (great by the way) and like I don't know anything about midi stuff I would like your advice about an adaptator that I saw at web : http://www.sonovente.com/avid-midisport-1x1-cartes-son-interfaces-p25513.htm
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think ? I don't want buy an other thing who doesn't work =(
Sorry for my english...
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Hi Sophie!
ReplyDeleteNormalement il devrait fonctionner. Ne ne suis pas sur porquoi il marche pas :/ Il semble d'etre le bon chose. Au meme temps, le logiciel n'est plus bon je crois. Il existe des logiciels meilleurs.. mais il faut chercher sur google.
Quand tu essayer de allumer le clavier, q'est qui passe?
(desolee pour mon francais ;) )
Hi Sophie!
ReplyDeleteNormalement il devrait fonctionner. Ne ne suis pas sur
porquoi il marche pas :/ Il semble d'etre le bon chose. Au meme temps,
le logiciel n'est plus bon je crois. Il existe des logiciels
meilleurs.. mais il faut chercher sur google.
Quand tu essayer de allumer le clavier, q'est qui passe?
(desolee pour mon francais ;) )
Ok but with the Wii wireless controler, it dosen't work, four leds are blinking, no sound. I use the prodipe midi cable and driver, any idea ?
ReplyDeleteI have the mio iconnectivity MIDI to USB cable and i'm using the Anvil Studio software but it's not playing jack shit and i'm frustrated lol because I wanna PLAY! Can someone help?!
ReplyDeleteWish I could, but I don't know that software :/ Hopefully someone can help you better. I really wanted to do an update of this video using newer and better software, but I haven't had time. I'm currently tearing my own hair out working on music for my band and preparing for a show :/
ReplyDeleteIt's alright, Hopefully someone does help.
ReplyDeleteZynAddSubFX is very nice instruments for rock bands. good sahring.
ReplyDeletefree software for pc